“My Time Is Up” Will Haunt Biden Until He Relents and Withdraws, Kamala & Buttigieg Soar

We reprise the best and worst of the debates and offer some commentary on the implications.  We also provide a readers’ extremely astute commentary on the debates, the media, Bernie, Biden, Harris, electric cars and more. The comment includes some very subtle observations worth your review..

After a few announcements, we provide analysis of the first two “debates,” and then present a very compelling comment from one of our readers who in about 200 words quite nicely weaves together a string of seemingly disparate thoughts into a concise cogent argument.. I like to offer up reader comments periodically to diversify the voice, so if you have thoughts on this or other posts, please comment away. Comments critical of what Retake presents or with a different slant are especially appreciated.  Just keep it civil.

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#My Time Is Up Destined to Be a Meme That Sinks His Candidacy

Moderation of Debates Needs to Be Tightened.  With 10 candidates on the stage at once and only two hours, candidates did all they could to ensure maximum exposure, including routinely ignoring time limits or requests for one word responses (Gildebrand being the most egregious at this in Debate II).  Moderators need to find a way to establish and enforce the limits. Another manifestation of the fight for air time was that beginning after the first hour of the first debate and being prominent throughout the second, candidates interrupted at will with the discussion often devolving into a shouting match to see who could grab an extra 20 seconds of mic time. During one of these spats, Sen. Kamala Harris injected one of the best lines of the night: “Hey, guys, you know what? America does not want to witness a food fight, they want to know how we are going to put food on their table.” Lastly, the time each candidate was able to speak was even more skewed in debate II than in Debate I. One of the primary functions of the first round of debates is to offer an opportunity for less known candidates to present their views. But in both debates the top tier candidates dominated the time on stage and in the second debate it was even more pronounced than in debate one. In Debate I where Sen. Booker led with 11 minutes on the mic and Inslee had the least at just 5 minutes. But as the chart below depicts, in Debate II the differences were far more pronounced, with Biden having more than four times as much air time as Yang. Ensuring that all participants had far more equal time would possibly reduce interruptions and reduce candidates running right through the time limits for responses.

Kamala vs. Biden.  As noted in Thursday’s post covering the first debate, that debate was a pretty substantive, issues-focused discussion that while marred a bit by interruptions, was still devoid of personal or even issue-focused challenges.  Not so debate II,  where shots were taken at Biden by several candidates with by far the most damaging being served up by Sen. Kamala Harris’ in her challenging Biden on his defense of arch segregationists. This is something that could have backfired as her passionate challenge to Biden stood in stark contrast to the demeanor prevalent throughout both debates. But based upon commentary all over the internet, politicos and pundits felt it would almost certainly boost her polling and hurt Biden.

Harris made it personal by integrating her personal history as an 8-year old girl being bussed in Berkeley with the result being her ability to access a good education and a path to her current Senate and presidential candidate status.. Biden did not help himself with his response, faltering somewhat and then offering as his defense for not favoring federal intervention in desegregation that it was the state’s responsibility for setting race policy. Of course, state’s rights was the policy used by segregationists for decades to fight all forms of civil rights and voter rights legislation and so falling back on that didn’t help Biden a bit. And then to top off his response, as he approached the one-minute limit, he commented, “My time is up, I guess” something that is destined to become a meme that will linger and haunt Biden, especially since, as a NY Times scribe noted, it seemed he had willingly ceded the floor because he had run out of ideas for responding to Harris.  Harris didn’t let the reference to states rights slip past, commenting:  “That’s why we have the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act. Because there are moments in history where states fail to preserve the civil rights of all people.”

What Did We Learn About Who Could Beat Trump. Certainly one takeaway from the first two debates must be that Senators Harris and Warren each demonstrated a presence, a passion and a command of policy that could stand up to Donald Trump. Here, again, the big loser was Biden as he stammered through an ineffective response to Harris.  Buttigieg and Julian Castro also demonstrated the kind of quick thinking and composure that could fend off the shotgun assaults that Trump uses in debates. And for years, Bernie has demonstrated that he can command the stage against anyone. I’d actually relish watching Bernie and Trump one on one. Bernie absolutely torched Trump when asked how he could defeat the President. On the other hand, if Biden’s defense against Harris is any illustration of his remaining debate skills, I am guessing many Biden backers must be having second thoughts. Indeed, as reported in multiple outlets, Tom McInerney, a major donor from California withdrew his support indicating that he could not abide his defense of segregationists and states rights, also noting that he felt Biden’s performance was not good. He ended his interview by suggesting:  “I am guessing I am not alone.”

Bernie: 2016 Redux.  You gotta hand it to Bernie, the guy sticks to his messaging and he sticks to his positions. He had several moments in the debate where he drove home fundamental truths about politics in America whether blasting pharma and the health industry for blocking meaningful healthcare reform, pointing to how corporate money in politics prevents progressive policies from being considered, or describing clearly the gross level of wealth inequality in America. These were the messages on which he anchored his campaign in 2016 and because of this most of the Democratic Party-if not its DNC and DCCC leadership–have shifted significantly to the left. Indeed, another of my takeaways from the two debates was just how far left the discussion has moved with few of the candidates defending the ACA or seeking to improve it and most all favoring some form of Medicare for All.  Indeed, policies advanced in relation to addressing student loans, taxing the rich and Wall St, decriminalizing the act of seeking asylum and many other areas represent a quantum shift in Democratic conversation. Regardless of whether Bernie wins the nomination, in terms of impact on American politics, he has already had the most profound impact upon the direction of the party of any Democrat perhaps going back to Roosevelt

Best lines of Round I

Best of the night:  This president is literally every single day 10 minutes away from going to war, one tweet away from going to war. And I don’t think we should conduct foreign policy in our bathrobe at 5:00 in the morning.”  Klobuchar noted.

Runner Up:  “There’s plenty of money in this world, there’s plenty of money in this country. It’s just in the wrong hands,” he opined at one point. “[F]or all the American citizens out there who feel you’re falling behind or feel the American dream is not working for you, the immigrants didn’t do that to you. The big corporations did that to you,” DeBlasio declared. This is a point that Democrats need to make over and over. The scapegoating of immigrants as the cause for working family struggles is shameless, inaccurate and distracts from the real culprits: Wall St. pharma, fossil fuels and the 1%.

Click here for a good analysis of the first debate and its implications

Best lines of Round II

Best of the night:  “Hey, guys, you know what? America does not want to witness a food fight, they want to know how we are going to put food on their table.” Kamala Harris.

Runner up: All of the candidates were asked which foreign leader they would call first after their inauguration, with an eye toward repairing damaged relationships. Buttigieg said he could not answer the question, because: “We have no idea which of our most important allies [Trump] will have pissed off worst between now and then.” Mayor Buttigieg.

Click here for an excellent analysis of the second debate from the same source as was cited for Debate I, Electoral-Vote.com

Tomorrow, as part of Sunday at the Movies, I will post a series of video highlights of the debate with headings to identify what is covered, but without commentary.

A Reader’s Penetrating Comments On the Debate, Biden, Bernie, Media, Electric Cars & More

“The advertisements show the real agenda at MSNBC.One Nation, a dark money funded conservative group, has come out attacking Universal Healthcare. BP ran several ads during the debate, about energy from trash, a kinder gentler oil company, that still has not cleaned up the Gulf.

Last night Kamala took down Biden. There is no doubt that he is not capable. This should have people questioning why he was brought out of mothballs. Bernie made a really important point, that none of this change can occur, until we take on the corporations, and build systemic change. Biden wants to “Fix” the ACA, but that ship has sailed, They allowed the corporations to undermine it. On the private insurance, a gotcha, it is clear now that keeping private insurance will only bring a two tiered health system, which is what we have now.

Bernie is right, the oppressive amount of money the same groups that are undermining the discussion and pitting people against each other. The MSNBC talking heads are describing Bernie as a “50’s era Socialist. yelling at people.” The paid media is falling all over each other attacking Bernie, and amplifying Biden, their favorite.

I am sick of the talk about electric cars. Each and every one of them takes a half a ton of rare earth elements. They want to mine the Pecos, a huge multi national mining company, with unlimited funding. Yesterday a republican congressman tried to get rid of restriction on buying conflict minerals in the Democratic Republic Of the Congo . The same kind of powerful company that is killing indigenous people in Central America. https://www.occrp.org/en/investigations/environmental-investigations-prompt-killing-and-silencing-of-journalists There are correlations with DAPL, private mercenary armies, with help from Israeli security, protecting mining interests.

We need a public transportation system that works, high speed trains can replace a good deal of air traffic, and keep a lot of carbon out of the atmosphere. The mines and deforestation are impacting global warming, funding war lords, and criminals and undermining Democracy. On the local level cars account for so much road building, and even parking spaces, rendering public areas, unwalkable, and housing too expensive. The reliance on cars is destroying or neighborhoods, isolating people. The isolation is adding to the Epidemic of Despair in this country.

I spoke with an old timer out in Las Vega NM, years ago. He told me that back in the day, they took a train to Albuquerque on Friday nights, after work. They did their shopping, had dinner and came home. It was enjoyable and stress free, now this trip is obviously viewed as unthinkable, unless absolutely necessary. People had a lot more mobility back then, even low income people could travel to other cities or regions.

I don’t think a lot of people are truly aware of what is at stake here.  I don’t see people catching on! There needs to be a reckoning, before we can move forward.”

In solidarity,

Paul & Roxanne

 

 

 

 

 

8 thoughts on ““My Time Is Up” Will Haunt Biden Until He Relents and Withdraws, Kamala & Buttigieg Soar

  1. I was shocked tp see all of the candidates be set up by the question on health care by Lester Holt. The media question was a “ringer” and none of the candidates saw it that way and just answered. This must change! The question asked by Lester Holt, “Many people watching at home have health insurance coverage through their employer. Who here would abolish their private health insurance in favor of a government-run plan?” Is one of those “pollster” questions.
    It does not state that the Medicare For All would eliminate essentially all of the co pays people are stuck with, plus they will be approved for EVERY visit for whatever the illness. Plus there are NO pre existing conditions! Plus you will never, ever have to face a bankruptcy from any medial procedure or drug costs! That is the difference, not that lame, two bit shill establishment question Holt asked!
    I think it is extremely important that Bernie go after these questions because they are asked in that way on purpose. The Candidates must all realize this is the play by the corp[orate elite and must state immediately that something is a rigged question. It will be the same with climate change! We cannot allow them to control the narrative!

  2. Glad you called them “debates”. One of their objectives was to boost the visibility of several second tier candidates in view to challenging Sanders. Mission accomplished.

    For the establishment DNC, Biden is simply a place-holder for Harris. The fun thing is that he’s probably clueless that this is his role. Once the field is narrowed, the next goal will be to get Sanders and Warren to destroy each other, or at least cancel each other out.

    My personal favorite is Tulsi, principally because of her anti-imperialist (I hope) convictions. At 1% prior to the “debates”, she seemingly has no chance, but. . .

    Polling at this point in GOP race in 2015:

    Jeb Bush 22%
    Scott Walker 17%
    Marco Rubio 14%
    Ben Carson 11%
    Mike Huckabee 9%
    Rand Paul 7%
    Rick Perry 5%
    Ted Cruz 4%
    Chris Christie 4%
    Carly Fiorina 2%
    Donald Trump 1%

    Tulsi will get a boost from her performance, but watch the knives come out if she approaches 5%.

    For those interested, here is a sampling of views on how the Harris phenomenon was manufactured:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/28/kamala-harris-joe-biden-debate-1390383

    https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/06/28/kamala-harris-is-an-oligarchs-wet-dream/

  3. Hi Paul and Roxanne,

    Thank you so much for reporting on what Bernie had to say. We still believe the Bernie is the candidate to Beat 45. And as both you and the other person sharing an opinion said, the press is doing all is can to discredit Bernie, based on totally false accusations of his being “red” or a “Commie/socialist” that date back to the Cold War. This is so dishonest as to make me sick!

    We did not watch the debates, due to scheduling conflicts. What we saw reported on Democracy Now! showed us that rudeness was the order of the day for people who get into shouting matches. This is a complete waste of air time and, as you point out, should be controlled by the moderators. However, they probably love a “food fight” because it’s good for ratings. That is why we need one of the more sane media outlets to broadcast the debates, one that doesn’t have a conflict of interest between advertisers trying to run a disinformation campaign and the public interest, which is clearly not their priority.

    Best wishes,

    Linda

  4. Wow, I should have edited that.

    The glossed over Bernie’s point. Kamala’s story was much more compelling. I went to school before busing, and had the unusual, for a white person, experience of attending, black schools, and white schools. This was back when even teachers used the N word. This was when even talking for a black person would lead to taunts of “N Lover” on the playground. In high school, I attended a school where the Eastman Kodak execs sent their kids to school in limos, a year later I was in a school, where there were race riots.

    One school had an Olympic sized swimming pool, clean well lit classrooms, and unlimited art supplies. The next school, was dark, dreary, old and depressing. They barely had text books, the books were recycled and 2 decades old. I still remember, how they were written in, and threadbare. I was not surprised when they rioted. White parents kept their kids home from school, but the only time I felt unsafe was walking past the armed National Guard soldiers, stationed in front of our school. When the racial tensions were high, my foster mom and I would hide in the back of our black friends car, while she drove. To get across town.

    Flash forward all of these years later,and here in NM it took a court case to determine that schools were underfunded due to race. Even the Archbishop noted a “Hint of racism,” prior to the decision. Local talking heads were quick to dismiss that aspect of the lawsuit. There is still plenty of denial and justification at the state level.

    Busing was supposed to be a compromise, they told us that it would improve the underfunded, schools where the minorities went. Biden compromised with the racists, until they found a work around.

    Bernie was talked over, and no media outlet, followed upon his statement. This was the first time some of these topics have been seriously raised on paid media. His point was that without dealing with the systemic issues, we will be spinning our wheels going after each attack, on our civil rights, the environment, or healthcare. We are on the cusp of Environmental Collapse, as our administration remains in denial, and peddles fairy tails about Carbon Capture, coal and nuclear to please the industries.

    Someone said the “Revolution Will Not be Televised.” There are too many people in the Thrall of media. People were not paying attention before the 2016 Elections, when the corporate funded false narrative was amplified on social media. I remember a time when local newspapers did investigative journalism, now we are mostly getting in content marketing.

    Last night I watched a hearing with the Department of Energy, that really should have terrified the populace. The administration put the worst possible person in charge. He BS’d his way through question after question, defending the targeted funding cuts and layoffs. He presented misleading information about carbon capture and “Nuculer.” He had to be reminded about international agreements on nuclear testing. He talked about how they are slashing regulations holding back the various industries, to bring innovation. One such project, a portable nuclear generator, https://futurism.com/physicists-horrified-militarys-portable-nuclear-reactor After the kitty litter incident at WIPP, what else could go wrong?

    I used to believe that we could do nuclear energy safely. In college they made it sound as if they had it all figured out. That was before we saw the industry response at Fukishima. Lie Gas Light and deceive. When we had the “most expensive” nuclear accident here in NM, no one really asked why. No one wanted to know, that private industry cost cutting, cutting corners and removing scientists, could lead to a “nuclear release.” In the immortal words of Richard E Newman, What Me Worry?”

    In the meantime the stock market is going up, Fascism is profitable. The healthcare stocks rallied after the attacks on Medicare For all, after the debate. Misery Despair and Hopelessness are good economic drivers. Even the talk of war was good for certain stocks, now that the war profiteers are in power.

  5. A few things I am considering after the first debates are:

    -what the mainstream wants us to take away from the debates, how they frame questions, the choice of topics and even the format of the whole debate.

    Why in such an important gathering of potential presidential candidates are they given so little time explaining their positions and frequently being cut off so the whole package can be wrapped for a commercial break? Is our future less important than commercial breaks?!

    -the lack of questions from media about money in politics and now the gerrymandering issue the Supreme Court has brought center stage seems a problem, Worse is how climate, the issue so critical to our collective future, remains mostly unaddressed. Why a lack of substantive discussion about climate destruction and associated energy issues? Let’s talk about climate issues, you have 30 seconds…next question and a break to commercial, BP or a car commercial, big pharmaceuticals and how they care about our future !

    -we need fundamental structural changes not just a shiny new president, even in how the debates are runnand who gets to speak based on fundraising.

    Sincerely, Nicholas Brown

  6. I would like to thank Kathy C for making the point that fascism is profitable. I retired just prior to Trump taking the reigns. There was no way I was going to risk any of my modest assets in the market with this buffoon it office. In hind sight most would say I was naive. But at least I can feel somewhat better about not being invested in what has transpired.

    How many progressively leaning persons have actually disinvested in all the evils of the world as a matter of conscience? I try not to look at market indicators because I become increasingly depressed knowing that as the fake emperor fiddles and Rome burns, folks are happy about their earnings.

    Trump continues to make what would seem one bad economic move after another and the market thrives. And as the collective consciousness realizes this can not be sustained, they are buoyed by his attacks of the Fed to lower rates to prop it up. Of course, folks not in the market see their modest returns plummet.

    The only candidate I have witnessed who addresses this situation directly seems to Elizabeth Warren. She often sites that while persons of means are doing great, it does not trickle down to the masses. I love Bernie and supported his first campaign vigorously and as Paul has previously pointed out, practically every progressive thing emanating out of the party is due directly to him. We have to all wonder how it will all shake out.

    But the corporate conservative powers that be have done their work demonizing socialism. For every good point or thing that Hickenlooper says or has done, he always has to null and void it by ripping socialism. This is one reason that at this point in the campaign, I see Warren picking up steam. Besides the fact she is wicked smart and really does have a plan.

    Whomever comes out on top (excluding Biden), and hopefully defeats Trump even with election tampering and voter suppression, we will have a better base from which to move forward. And even if Warren or Bernie are not the nominee, there are many candidates that could work wonders in a new administration. And we have gotten to know them because of this crazy huge process. Best to us all! Maybe our last chance to turn it around.

  7. Democrats look like the Keystone Cops. They should caucus, get on the same page, select their most progressive, and support her “tooth and nail!”

  8. Don’t know if he would make a good President (a key issue…), but I love the thought of Alpha Male Bill de Blasio debating Donald Trump. The latter’s knees would be shaking.

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